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Mrs Moneypenny of the FT asked this weekend ‘are you an adept user of social media?’  Since most of the FT’s readers are boardroom directors, I would anticipate the answer to that question would not only be ‘no’ but more likely ‘you must be joking’.

This is a major issue in the UK: senior people are not using, understanding or managing social media in their organisations.  And it was this argument that led to the BBC asking me to join 30 other women at their Expert Women training day at The BBC Academy in Salford last week.

And what an experience!  I have not felt so terrified, so energised, learnt so much or had such fun since I recently took flying lessons.  It was a mix of the scary, feeling over-awed at being in the company of so many amazing women and the really wonderful and supportive BBC team – for which many thanks to The BBC Academy.

I have been helping our clients with media training for years, particularly for crisis communications – but it is nothing like doing it yourself.   Here are the ten media training tips for expert women that I took away from the day which might help you if you have an interview on TV or radio.

And perhaps we should mention – why are the BBC training expert women?  Research last year showed that the ratio of men to women appearing in the media is anything between 3:1 and 15:1 on programmes such as Radio 4 Today, Sky News, panel discussions.  Lisa Campbell, editor of Broadcast magazinedecided something needed to be done – and this is the result.   Thanks also to The Two Per Cent Club for encouraging its members to apply.

1.       Experts are to inform

All through the day we were assured that an ‘expert’ is not there to be grilled Paxman-style, but to explain and add insights into a subject.  The challenge is that the media want someone who really knows their stuff – has published books, research and given lectures – but actually they usually only need a 90-second clip. 

Deep knowledge has to be explained in a way that your mother, your mates in the pub or your friends round the dinner table can understand and be interested in.

 2.       Say yes

Apparently a problem with women commentators is that they tend to think everyone else will be a better person to explain something than themselves. 

Part of the training was to give everyone confidence that what they are saying is worth saying and is needed.  And that when the phone goes, please say yes.  You will have to put yourselves out sometimes.

3.       Work out your brand

The lovely Francesca Kasteliz helped us to understand the strengths of how we come over and then develop this into a brand.  We all gave our views on each other – confident, smiley, friendly.  Too many of mine were about being authoritative (hope this wasn’t bossy) but she suggested confident was a better brand!!

She then told us to think about our brand ‘I know about social media for business, I’m confident, I’m friendly’ before any interview – to remind ourselves and give ourselves that needed lift.

 4.       Focus on the eyes

When giving a TV interview – terrifyingly we all went on the Breakfast TV sofa! – stay focused on the interviewer or the other person speaking.

When we played back our interviews, I saw I had weirdly said good morning to those on the sofa and then seemed to turn around and look at the camera.  It took me a while to realise that whenever I say good morning at the start of an event or meeting, I try and look round to include everyone in the room – in this case those behind the cameras.  Not a good idea when on TV!

5.       Refer to your fellow speakers

There are often two or three guests to speak about a subject.  It works really well if you can refer back to something the presenter said in the introduction, or something that your fellow guest said.

This was particularly important in the longer Woman’s Hour-style discussion on radio.  It sounds much more interesting to the listener if there is genuine interaction between guests ‘Mary’s point is really valid and ….’.

 6.       Careful of language

This caused some debate during the day.  Sheena Byrom is a consultant midwife and concerned that over her career women have become more fearful of natural – or as she put it, vaginal – childbirth.

Apparently the production team winced at the ‘v’ word – particularly for a breakfast show.  But others felt this was the right phrase to use.  Either way, take care with language.

7.       Energy, smile , relax

My TV feedback was that it was a high energy discussion, smiling and relaxed.  Apparently this is all good – as is leaning forward slightly which shows you are really engaged in a conversation.

In our ‘piece to camera’ – when we had to talk while walking – we all learnt that you have to slightly overplay how you normally are.  Making ourselves slightly more expressive, more movement, more passion.  That all looks good on TV.

Actually passion is good for all this.

8.       Make a point

Many of us complain that the media is too black and white and always about controversy.  But you can see why to some extent.

One of our colleagues was very fair and even-handed.  While perhaps more natural, the media wants commentators to have a clear point of view. 

In our initial application for the training day, we had to say what our ‘issue’ was.  Instead of just saying ‘I have experience in social media, business and education’, they made us drill down into a specific point that needs addressing.  Mine was that business leaders don’t understand social media and the impact this is having on organisations – such as the 17 year old teenager, Paris Brown, who was appointed a police commissioner and her bosses had not thought to look at her social media profiles.

 9.       Be persistent in pitches

If you want to pitch an idea to the media, you need to think about who the audience is, what the point is, why it is needed.  You may initially be rejected, but it can pay off to be gently persistent over time.

I did suggest – apparently controversially – that business is not covered properly in the media.  The only two programmes we could think of were Evan Davies’ Bottom Line and Peter Day’s In Business.  That’s not much for its importance (the country is relying on successful businesses to get us out of this recession) – or recognising that a third of the UK is employed by micro businesses.

10.   Industrial hair spray

I don’t think any of us liked seeing ourselves on television.  I could not bear to see a matronly image when in my mind I am still young and slim.  One of our group worried about her fly-away hair all through the day – for which the advice was ‘get yourself industrial strength hair spray’!

We were also told to use plenty of make-up – the lippy was out all through the day – and powder, and not to be afraid of asking for more powder if you feel shiny under the cameras.  Chaps, you can ask too – though you may not want the hairspray.

Most of us know that stripes, checks and fussy patterns don’t work on TV – they create a strobing effect.  Best of all is block colour – and preferably bright, particularly if you are making a serious point.  Black and pure white are not good either.

So those are the tips.  It was a nerve-wracking day, can’t deny that.  But the BBC team and colleagues could not have been kinder and the expert women were so inspiring.

Have you been through any of this – any tips to share?

14 Responses to “Top 10 media training tips for expert women – and men – giving media interviews”

  • on May 5th, 2013 4:07 pm

    Top 10 media training tips for expert women – and men – giving media interviews http://t.co/onjnV0lNjd Thanks! @TheBBCAcademy

  • on May 5th, 2013 5:25 pm

    @victoriabetton @MrsButterwth Promised to tell you about fab training day @TheBBCAcademy in Salford http://t.co/onjnV0lNjd

  • on May 5th, 2013 7:47 pm

    @anniecoops Looks really interesting, you midwives are very inspiring! Do you know @SagefemmeSB – met her last week http://t.co/onjnV0lNjd

  • on May 6th, 2013 4:09 pm

    @jackson_heather Tku so much for encouraging Two Per Cent mbrs to apply for @TheBBCAcademy training – so inspiring http://t.co/onjnV0lNjd

  • on May 8th, 2013 6:15 pm

    @anna69wallo thanks for following – had such great experience @TheBBCAcademy last week http://t.co/onjnV0lNjd. Great stuff BBC is doing!

  • on May 11th, 2013 12:09 pm

    @speaking_women thanks for following, would love your thoughts on our blog re @thebbcacademy http://t.co/onjnV0lNjd

  • on May 17th, 2013 4:30 pm

    @VictoriaBetton @lizgreenlive Stop being girlie! This is why @bbcacademy expert woman training so important?! http://t.co/onjnV0lNjd

  • on May 18th, 2013 5:02 pm

    @dinamedland @jackson_heather am member of 2% Club and supported each other for some yrs – thanks! This was thru 2% http://t.co/onjnV0lNjd

  • on May 24th, 2013 1:22 pm

    Many excellent pointers @theBBCAcademy and we @speaking_women particularly endorse tip 2: trust your own voice, style, message: develop who you are. Too many of us feel pressured to speak/act/work like men. Men will always be better at being men than us! And tip 8 is good too: no need to be adversarial but you must be CLEAR, so know your key point and edit, edit, edit.

  • Victoria Tomlinson
    on May 24th, 2013 1:29 pm

    These are such great comments, Rosalind, thank you. You are so right about the need to be happy in ourselves as women – I know many think this is one of the things women are trying to work out in terms of senior leadership positions.
    Thanks for the thoughts!

  • on May 28th, 2013 9:11 am

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  • on June 20th, 2013 4:54 pm

    Victoria – thanks, this is really good advice, beautifully put across. I can feel the experience with you! A great tip I was given about tv interviews (or any presentation) is to “like” the audience. It’s not about thinking how many people might be watching – that would be distracting and scary – but about coming across as friendly and keen to enlighten, especially on a very serious topic.

  • on June 20th, 2013 6:11 pm

    What a great piece of advice, Alison, thank you. I like to think I always like an audience, but actively thinking about them this way would be a really good way to get your mind in gear
    And thanks for the nice feedback!

  • on June 21st, 2013 2:28 pm

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